ZitatOriginal von GustMeinem Freund ist das vor 2 Jahren mit nem Sabian Crashbecken passiert und ohne Bohren hält das immernoch.
Your friend is very lucky. In most cases, drilling will only slow down the process. Mostly it cracks again after a while.
ZitatOriginal von atreyuwhat are your prices for hammering crap into jewerly ;)?
You can find them in the "Modification details" link in my signature at the bottom of this post.
Or send me an drumcymb@yahoo.com.
Here are two 16" "Reverse China's" I hammered from 16" crashes. "Reverse" meaning the shape of Paiste Novo, bell facing upwards, edge facing down.
Just click the names for the soundfiles.
16" Reverse China -from Bosphorus crash
16" Reverse China-from Paiste Dimensions crash
ZitatOriginal von matzdrums
die orchesterzymbeln bzw. "suspended cymbals" sind normalerweise leichter als ihre drumsetkollegen.
Yes that's true.
But there are also the orchestral cymbals that come in pairs which are held by hand and clashed together. These are often very heavy cymbals that can easily be used as rock-rides. Like the Sabian Germanic.
You can't make a 101 sound worse than it already does, so try it and let us know.... 
Mostly I'm asked to make cymbals darker. Only rarely I have to make them brighter.
Next time that happens I will make a "before and after" file.
Here's Sabian AA 20" Crash which was very high pitched, but I hammered it into a 20" Dark Crash. Sounds like THIS now and here's what it looks like:
Judging from the pics, they look more like bumps than "risse". Do you feel a bump?
Anyway, if you don't see anything on the other side, they are not "risse" and you don't need to worry.
Take a magnifying glass to make sure.
I just made a rather special set of 14" hihats with an oriental sound.
You get a variety of percussive sounds by just changing the place where you hit the top-cymbal. Sounds like 2 different hihats played at the same time.
HERE'S a soundfile.
The Tosco hihats are B20 and professional quality. Without experience, you'll probably break these. It 's a very hard B20 variety. They can be made into much more beautiful cymbals but you really need to know what to do.
The other cymbals would be good for learning. The Ufip looks like a cheap B8 cymbal, the Zymbor (not Zymeor) looks like brass.
Now for some brighter stuff.
14" Bright Crisp Hihats 903-1130gr
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzd…0gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3
18" Bright Dry Ride 1530gr
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzd…0gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3
ZitatOriginal von drumsandbeats
I've bought a Stagg Traditional China (22") for quite little money and would like to add a bunch of rivets.
Now I'm wondering how many I should use, where to place them and of which material they prefarably should be.
What would be your suggestion for a low, warm (but still trashy) and sustaining sizzled china sound (I imagine to use it in ballads.)
First of all I'd try with a bathtub chain. If that sound pleases you, you don't have to drill and risk to damage this already fragile cymbal.
If you do want rivets I'd suggest starting with only one or two rivets about 1,5 inch away from the edge (never in the fold). You can always add more later.
It's very important that the metal does not get hot while you are drilling, so use good tools and cool the metal or drill in several steps.
The material of the rivets is a matter of taste. Steel rivets will add a brighter sizzle than brass rivets. Experiment.
But rivets are not going to change the character of the cymbal. It's not going to make the cymbal warmer or lower. They just add a high frequency sustain.
Groeten van Johan :]
ZitatOriginal von buddler
It is about 30 cm, but real crap right now...
I don't know the material exactly, but it is some kind of red bronze (maybe b8 ).
I will post some pics when my parents (and cam) are back from their holiday..
Show us a pic of this one...
Cool ! And a soundfile perhaps ??
ZitatOriginal von buddler
I will post some pics when my parents (and cam) are back from their holiday.
Are they still on holiday ?
ZitatOriginal von taktlos
That's beautiful work ! Congratulations !
I have one tip for you (and for all owners of old Pearl drums):
If you replace the 22 mm steel tubes of the tomholders by 22 mm aluminium tubes, your toms will have much more sustain, like with rims.
All the old types of Pearl tomholders (or similar) can be improved this way.
It gives the same sound-effect as floating/isolated suspension, without having to buy expensive isolated tomholder-systems or rims.
Great work ! I bet your drums sound much better now without the wrap !
ZitatOriginal von Ynnus
Hey Johan, I'm wondering how a cymbal changes it's color just with hammering it.
Like this one: http://users.telenet.be/cymbzd…nd_after_modification.jpg
How do you get it to become colored that way?
In this case, it's not the chemical process (I didn't apply it to the Headliner).
Actually the colour of this cymbal hasn't changed, it's only the different lighting.
I should have taken both pictures with the cymbal in the same position and with the same lights. My mistake.
But after the hammering, I lathed the cymbal. That caused the cymbal to look newer and more brilliant.
Hi there !
Are there really no German drummers that make or customize their own drums, hardware or cymbals ?
Post your work in the DIY Showroom, I'm feeling a bit lonely there !
Greetings,
Johan (...from Belgium)
