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Hi,

this is Bülent from Cymballand . I see that you're waiting for an answer or comment for a while. I try to help. Zultan Cymbals made by Turkish Cymbals for Thomann and Rockbeat Series is exactly the same with Turkish Cymbals Rockbeat Series . All of them are B20 Alloy. So your crash has to give you a soft beating feel, musical, colorful and washy sound. You can compare the sound of your 16" crash with the original Turkish Cymbals Rockbeat Crash from this link: http://www.cymballandvirtual.d…20beat&cymball=crash%2016

If you insist to know about the "R" on your crash, I can ask Turkish Cymbals Head Office and inform you. But I agree with the other drummer friend who already answered. If you like the sound, it doesn't matter. It's yours

Cheers,


Bülent

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Alex, ich glaube Du solltest Bülent eher per Handy oder Facebook oder über die Homepage zu erreichen versuchen (siehe Startpost in diesem Thread).
Er war nun das letzte Mal hier im DF im September 2017 angemeldet, und wer weiß, wann er Deine Frage lesen und beantworten wird.

Grüße,
Tom

Thanks for your help, dear Tom. You're definitely right! I'm always ready to help via Facebook Page, e-mail or Whatsapp. Here is the contact info:

My Handy: 0177 4035975
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/cymballand/
E-mail: info@cymballand.de

Zitat von das_machtjanix

Hi Bülent,
i am thinking abouting testing Turkish cymbals for a longer time now. I have two questions: Can i just come by at cymballand, so do you have something like open hours or do i need an appointment and if how long before should i ask for it??

Dear Alex,
first of all, thanks for your interest in our Handmade Turkish Cymbals and for your message. And so sorry for my very late response. But anyway, I don't wanna leave your questions without an answer.
Actually, I don't have a physical shop. Drummers are having their cymbals generally from the website http://www.cymballand.de. But if any drummer wanna check our Turkish Cymbals out as personally just like you, we're making a date and meeting at my storage. It's a pleasure for me. We know each other face to face, drinking coffee ( most of time and trying a lot of Turkish Cymbals. There is a real " Cymballand". I guarantee

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I'm really interested in the Millennium Series, but also the Classic Cymbals sound really good (on your Website and what you can find on youtube)... Now i mostly play Blues Rock, put also like to play a little harder once in a while, so I am not really a Jazz-type of drummer. I really like the K-Zildjians as a reference, but was also really blown away by the sound samples I have found of the Millennium Series. Now, these are supposed to be pure Jazz Cymbals, is that correct. Do you think (If you get the right sizes, like 15'' HH, 18''/19'' C, 22'' R for example) they also work well for blues rock or with a little bit harder playing style?

If you asking my personal opinion, they're only the names. I have a lot of rock drummer-friends which are playing our Vintage Soul Series, Dark Hammer Series etc. Or there are Jazz drummers which are playing our Ephesus Series. If you find your sound, your taste in Millennium Series, that's all. But why Turkish Cymbals is classifying their series? Because of their weights. For example, Turkish Cymbals released Sehzade Jazz and Kurak Jazz Series last year. A regular Kurak Ride is about 3000 grams and it has a big, powerful bell. Kurak Ride Jazz 21" is about 2000 grams and has a smaller bell. If Millennium is responding your needs, you can absolutely play Rock, Blues with them.

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And where are the main differences between them and the classic series?

Millennium Series is a bit thinner and lighter. A bit more hammered and more frequently lathed. These are making their sound smoother, sharper and they are sensitive. A quicker response.
Classics are in medium-weights, a bit heavier than Milleniums and their sound is darker, washier and a bit louder.

But of course, they're handmade and there are heavy Millenniums and light Classics. I'm just talking about a general differences

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Cheers, Alex

Cheers, man! All the best.

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Hello and welcome to the Drummerforum.
First at all it is nice to see that turkish cymbals has now a german distrubutor and now the colleaques have the ability when it comes to buying turkish cymbals to get them here in germany.
Secondly i am sorry i am not a big fan of your cymbal sound but there are great sounds in there.Especially the john Blackwell ride is a great sounding cymbal and seems pretty heavy?

Hi David,
thanks for your feedback. I'm an endorser of Turkish Cymbals and I'm playing them for 13 years. When I came to Germany from Istanbul 3 years ago, I noticed that there was no dealer of Turkish Cymbals and most of the drummers didn't hear the company. I surprised because Turkish Cymbals is 24 years old company and they're selling tons of cymbals entire world. I thought I can do, why not? It could be my chance. Because I really know this cymbals. They made from high-quality B20 materials, hand hammered and their prices are better than others. Now here we are and And I can say all of my drummer friends like my cymbals
John Blackwell Series cymbals are generally thin and light. Thin crash, thin china, small an thin hi-hat. The ride is pretty heavier than other series rides as you told. The weight of the ride is 3474g. There is only one cymbal is heavier than John Blackwell: Rock Beat Ride 22" (3673g). And the John Blackwell Ride Jazz 22" is 2791g.

Hi again dear drummer friends,

our stocks are completed with a great new serie: John Blackwell Signature Series. Mr. John Blackwell was the drummer of Prince. He is an amazing drummer ( I learnt my first stick trick from him and his cymbals are amazing, too. You can check their natural sounds out at our interactive website http://www.cymballandvirtual.de . You know how. Just play with your PC mouse them. And you could visit for the other infos : http://www.cymballand.de .

Freundlich Grüße, have a great sunday...

Bülent from Cymballand

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Hi again, my friend. I don't know the guy maybe you were in a different shop. Rock Beat Series is one of our bestseller. I'm playing with Rock Beat Crashes 16"-17" at my drumset, too. Unfortunately 16" and 18" Rock Beat Crashes have been sold but we've already ordered new Turkish Cymbals from Istanbul. I think our stocks will be completed in a month. I'll let you know.

Hi MetalHead82,
thanks for your welcoming. I understand and agree with you. Nice to hear that you have a Turkish Cymbal. If you bought your Turkish Cymbals crash from our head showroom in Beyoglu- Istanbul, you had to introduce with our export director Miss Semaya. She is a very kind person. Could you please tell me which series crash do you have? I can say after I read your nickname you have a Kurak or Rock Beat Raw Crash...

You're welcome, Kklon, Enjoy them

Hi velleron, thanks for your kind. Correct, my websites ( both: http://www.cymballand.de and http://www.cymballandvirtual.de ) have bit more traffic at the moment. Especially Virtual Studio. I'm happy to be here with you. This is a really cool forum and it's educative for me at firstly as a drummer. Hope to hear other drummers! Cheers!...

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You and your software team did a great job.
The different "sound zones" are great.

Thanks a lot! We are working for the best service. I planned for this project for long time. It was like an imagined toy for me. Because there are only sample tracks or videos which are played and recorded by somebody. I thought, it hasn't to be like that. Musicians suppose to be active while they are looking for something as online. Doesn't matter cymbals, snares or another instrument. Ok, we played and recorded our sample sounds, too but at least drummers can choose the sound of the zone of the cymbals and they can compare them. They're not passive sound listeners anymore. I told to my programmer friend what I'm planning for http://www.cymballandvirtual.de , and he said, "yeah, why not, it looks easy! " But be sure, it wasn't . It took long long time and much more effort than our plans. But it doesn't matter, it works, right!

Zitat von Two

Good to have a Turkish importer in Germany again.
Good luck with the business!

Danke schön!

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I had some weird delays bur thought of WLAN issues... anyway, the sound room of another manufacturer does not work at all on the Ipad, so some delayed sounds are way better than no sound. Maybe you find a fix for Safari further down the road...

Yeah, I have some delays on my iPad and Macbook when I'm using Safari. Be sure we'll work for it but we need time for fix the situation. It's not a regular website actually. This is an application which working as online. We wanna make it perfect and gonna do this. Please check http://www.cymballandvirtual.de with Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox. I believe you'll really enjoy... Thanks, mate!...

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The Website is cool, it even works on the Ipad. Probably the best presentation of cymbal sounds I have seen up to now!

Thanks Oliver, it's good to hear that. Actually we have some delaying problems with Safari browser and we are suggesting Chrome or Mozilla Fireworks for the best result.
I needed a reference for finding my drum sound like Cymballand Virtual as a drummer before. Now I created it. I hope it helped to you, too.
All the best,
Bülent

Dear Moe Jorello (cool nick name btw:) ),
this is really cool feedback for me. I appreciate for this, thanks. The site (http://www.cymballandvirtual.de ) is really user-friendly (just click on a cymbal and listen to the natural sound) and it looks like very simple (the site is only 1 page) . But we worked really hard for this. Almost 20 different software is working together in the page (this is what my software team said to me). And I think this is first in the world. I just wanna to give an opportunity for checking Turkish Cymbals out to drummers before buying them. I think and I see that, this is working for who wanna find a cool cymbal sound for his (or her) drum set.

Dear Hebbe,
thank you very much! I recognized that, my topic has been already transferred to the right place with your help. I think I can feel free for sharing information about my cymbals, right? So, hi again, folks

Thanks chino, I'm gonna do that. Excuse me if I did something wrong. I'll be appreciate if anybody warn me about my mistake. I'm open for to get help.

Hi friends,
this is Bülent E. Albayrak from Cymballand. At firstly I'm sorry for my language. My German language is not enough momently. But I'm working on it. I'm a drummer and I'm playing Turkish Cymbals for 12 years as an endorser. Now I'm living in Berlin and I'm the distributor of Turkish Cymbals in Germany. I'm ready to answer if you have any question about Turkish Cymbals.

ÜBER CYMBALLAND

Cymballand ist Händler von „100% Handgefertigten B20 Turkish Cymbals“ in Deutschland. Die Firma wurde in Berlin vom Drummer und Endorser Bülent Ecevit Albayrak gegründet, der bereits seit 12 Jahren Turkish Cymbals verwendet. Das Motto von Cymballand, welches darauf abzielt Schlagzeugern hochqualitative, komplett handgemachte B20 legierte türkische Becken zu „geringen Preisen“ zu verkaufen, lautet „From Musicians to Musicians“. Cymballand weiß sehr genau, dass ein Drummer gern alle Eigenschaften seines Beckens (Aussehen, Sound, Herstellungsmaterial, Herstellungsprozess etc.) kennen möchte. Daher ermöglicht Cymballand seinen Drummern in Berlin und Umgebung die Becken direkt auf einem Drumset zu testen. Zusätzlich bieten wir Drummern, die unsere Webseite http://www.cymballand.de besuchen, die Möglichkeit, die handgemachten B20 legierten Turkish Cymbals audiovisuell zu erleben.

ÜBER TURKISH CYMBALS

Die handgefertigte Beckenherstellung begann in Istanbul-Samatya im Jahre 1623. Zunächst wurden sie als „Mehteran“ Becken für das osmanische Militärorchester mit Hilfe antiker Techniken gefertigt und erst im Nachhinein als Becken für moderne Musik.
„Turkish Cymbals“ wurde im Jahr 1996 in Istanbul von Mehmet Tamdeğer gegründet. Er arbeitete in Istanbul – Samatya mit der Zildjian Familie und lernte alle Details und Tricks der Beckenherstellung. Momentan ist er der einzige, lebende Hersteller, der mit der Zildjian Familie zusammenarbeitete und die Techniken zur handgemachten Beckenherstellung kennt. Nachdem die Zildjian Familie in die USA immigrierte und mit der Herstellung von Becken mit Hilfe von Maschinen begann, entschied sich Mehmet Tamdeğer dazu weiterhin handgemachte Becken in der Türkei herzustellen. Zunächst gründete er seine eigene Firma mit dem Namen “IstanbulMehmet Cymbals” und half später bei der Gründung der Firma “Turkish Cymbals” mit eigenem Geschäftsanteil. Alle Handwerker und Kunsthandwerker der Fabrik wurden von Mehmet Tamdeğer ausgebildet und er ist noch immer die letzte Person, die den Herstellungsprozess der Becken überprüft und bestätigt.

The website is:
http://www.cymballand.de

And dear drummers, we have a special project for drummers. We created an interactive website for you. This website is not for selling cymbals. It's for checking the sound of Turkish Cymbals as personally online. This is an unique virtual studio. You can play all of our Turkish Cymbals with your pc mouse for listening their exact sounds. You can get sound from their bells, edge or middle space. Also can listen open hi-hat, closed hi-hat, chick sound. The website is : http://www.cymballandvirtual.de

Cymballand's YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkUfpj_IbypUT0-TMqE24KQ

Facebook Pages:
https://www.facebook.com/cymballand/
https://www.facebook.com/turkishcymbalsgermany/


My personal Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/bealbayrak


Handy: 0177 4035975


E-mail: info@cymballand.de


Please don't hesitate to call or write to me...

Thanks for your time, drummers! I'm ready to help for building your unique Handmade Turkish Cymbals sound. Hope to hear you!...
Best regards,
Bülent